Krsnacandra Dasa – Vrndavan:
Dear Tulasi Devi Dasi
Thank you for replying, I didn’t think that we would hear from you again, but then again you seem to be very attached to your guru.
The first point that I would like to address is probably the most important and most telling point…
You address Srila Prabhupada as “Prabhupada” which infers that perhaps you do not know the proper etiquette when addressing the suddha bhakta. To many of us this is a sign of disrespect and it reflects not only how your “Gurudev” has not trained you properly it also displays his contempt for who he should consider as his and our diksa Guru / Acharya and his superior in every way.
There is qualitative difference between the suddha bhakta who has taken birth as a devotee of the Lord and has gone on to establish an international society for Krsna consciousness and a baddha jiva who owes everything to his diksa guru His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
This is a distinction that many followers of the FISKCON initiating spiritual masters have yet to, or refuse to make. This spotlights the disconnection between them /you and Srila Prabhupada. This disconnection is apparent in our movement due to the fact that since the first eleven imposters changed the system that Srila Prabhupada established to another system that allows for anyone who is ambitious and disrespectful enough to disobey the orders of the Spiritual Master and falsely lay claim to his title and position.
The falldown rate of FISKCON gurus is a sure telltale sign that something is wrong with the appointment system. A ‘real’ suddha bhakta like Srila Prabhupada will not fall down once they have attained either prema bhava or Krsna prema. The fact that they do should cast severe doubt into your mind what to speak of intelligence that the Rubberstamping System and the GBC or present ISKCON Gurus are not qualified to recognize or appoint pure devotees into the role of diksa guru in ISKCON.
If these individuals are not suddha bhaktas and Srila Prabhupada did not agree to or establish a Rubber Stamping system of initiating spiritual masters, what to speak of establishing a system of spiritually unqualified persons who are imitating/initiating spiritual masters, then why do you support such a system?
Further there were no official or qualified gurus present during or shortly after Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence in our society then how can you assume mere months after his departure there arose 11 fully qualified diksa gurus out of nowhere and began to initiate disciples and the rest is history.
Your guru was appointed after this time and would have been well aware of the illegal nature of the “guru by appointment” system and that he was not a suddha bhakta as described in shastra and taught by Srila Prabhupada therefore he was not qualified to begin giving diksa initiation to others.
You have to know that each and every Rubber Stamped guru or Rubber Stamped guru wannabe knows that what I say is true. They all know that they are not qualified and the system is bogus and yet they refuse to show any loyalty or integrity as human beings and participate in such sacrilegious offences against the pure devotee His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
Further that even though they know that what they have done is wrong they still maintain, or aspire to be, a diksa guru or initiating spiritual master as if it is a ‘job’ or a ‘promotion’ that entitles them to join in the ‘gravy train’ mockery of spiritual diksa that is rampant in India.
They are not fools and are very cunning for they know perfectly well the qualities and qualification of a diksa or initiating spiritual master coming in disciplic succession within our sampradaya. They know this title and function within a Vaisanava Society is only given to the most qualified person, for example Srila Bhaktivinod Thakura or Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura and Srila Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada did not cheapen the role and function of a diksa guru by throwing it open to all and sundry.
The problem is that you refuse to accept the truth that these people are cheating you! That you do not have the intelligence and integrity to look beyond your sentimental attachment that was born out of believing the lie that the GBC and Rubberstamped Guru forced upon you.
The sole reason why it does not stop and their enterprises get bigger and bigger is because of devotees like you who believe them and not Srila Prabhupada.
I do, however, agree with you with regards to the establishment of separate franchised corporate bodies within the institution of ISKCON such as you mention established by Madhu Pandit Dasa in ISKCON Bangalore.
I am also of the opinion that Srila Prabhupada would never allow this no matter how dire the circumstances are.
There is no way on God’s green earth that Srila Prabhupada would be happy with Madhu Pandits establishment of a shadow GBC / TPs / and Gurus (rtvik). I am sure that it would break Srila Prabhupada’s heart to see such an ambitiously rebellious program established by his disciples.
Many of these independent / malcontent programs increasingly rely on donations from mundane charitable work in order to operate and expand as they lack spiritual potency.
The excuse that many give in an attempt to justify their activities is that Srila Prabhupada left the Gaudiya Matha and established his own Math.
The single most telling flaw in this argument is that they are not Srila Prabhupada nor are they suddha bhakta’s of the Lord who have the right or duty to do so. They do not have the right or duty to ‘add or subtract’ one single thing that Srila Prabhupada had established. Their duty is to follow Srila Prabhupada and to assist Srila Prabhupada in managing his Society and help it grow and flourish.
However, having said that, Srila Prabhupada would also never allow your so called spiritual master and diksa guru to establish his own separate Guru franchise either. He would be so upset over the vulgar display of ill-gotten disciples as these imposters parade around with their sycophantic fawning entourage and selfishly fill their bank balances.
He would be especially displeased with the Vantasi Sannyasi disciples who hunger after material wealth, fame, admiration, respect and position…
Please do not misunderstand what independent projects/franchises that your guru and others like him have done in ISKCON.
Each and every so called rubberstamped initiating spiritual master / diksa guru is a separate franchise and a law / financial entity unto themselves. They have their own disciples, projects and bank accounts. Their idea is no different to other business franchises that exist in the karmi world and only serve to fragment and alienate Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON.
They are Franchises that trade under the umbrella of ISKCON with the complicity of the errant GBC and it is precisely this separatist mentality that has been a severe contributing factor to the corruption of ISKCON to date.
To establish a separate entity (Franchise) while engaging in disciple harvesting / business activities or charitable work, while using Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON as ones legitimising agency is amoral and a philosophical deviance.
If the GBC and BBT / BBTi were a not a bunch of corrupted individuals, the collective monies made from a unified ISKCON could be administered and appropriated in a manner in which Srila Prabhupada had instructed and our Vaisnava society would be vastly different than it is today.
Now we have a multitude of independent operators (franchises) all using ISKCON’s name and properties to engage in building their own private enterprises and bank accounts. There is no collective mood. There is no collective financial base and the institution itself is basically bankrupt with the bulk of the donations held by the private gurus businesses.
This is the same with all the independent projects who collect donations under ISKCON’s name and claim some connection to Srila Prabhupada. None of these monies are given in to the institution which was supposed to be the managerial aspect of Srila Prabhupada but has turned into a corrupted money laundering body which serves the needs of the corrupted ISKCON guru franchises.
The fact that the ‘gurus’ have all the money and the institution is penniless is representative of the ideology of – keep the central governing body poor and spiritually weak, keep them corrupt and engaged in punitive measures against any ‘whistle blowing’ or finger pointing and it will ensure unrestricted activities and sound economic development to the Guru Franchise Businessmen.
Let the Rubberstamped Gurus disclose their personal and ISKCON bank accounts and you will see where the money is going. How many of them as Sannyasi’s have millions of dollars in these accounts that they will never part with? None of them will give one rupee to the institution they use to legitimise their franchised guru businesses and the institution will never ask for it either for they are part of the corruption.
This is all thanks to individuals like your Guru Maharaja… Who I would be grateful if you name so that we know who this individual is that you so reverently support.
Many of these people have very sordid pasts (and present’s) that many of their disciples write off as the pastimes of a suddha bhakta. However a court of law would perhaps view their activities as criminal thus placing them behind bars instead of being allowed to roam free corrupting this spiritual movement that was meant to be the saviour of mankind…
Your guru has given his opinion on issues he thinks are important in ISKCON so ask him does he believe that Srila Prabhupada would allow anyone to begin to initiate disciples of their own if they were not pure devotees, suddha bhakta’s, of Krsna. If he says that Srila Prabhupada would, then please ask him to show the quotes from Srila Prabhupada’s spoken or written words that grant this dispensation. To my knowledge and a quick search to the Vedabase would also find that there is none.
There is no instruction left or system established by Srila Prabhupada who knew when he was leaving his body and who knew how important that a sound system be setup to continue the movement that he had spent gallons of blood and heartfelt endeavour to establish.THERE IS NONE.
Please remember or know that simply because someone announces himself as a Vaisnava devotee of the Lord and claims discipleship from Srila Prabhupada and proclaims some sort of seniority does not qualify him or her as eligible to don the mantle of a diksa guru, initiating spiritual master, in Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON.
Disciple means that both the guru and disciple must be qualified. Diksa means to surrender to one who knows Krsna intimately, in bhakti yoga. Bhakti means when one has not only reached the brahma bhuta platform and is thereby Brahman, but that they had profound and loving knowledge of the Lord and are in the spiritual state of consciousness known as Krsna prema.
Tulasi DD you must see this? How can you not? Somewhere in your mind and heart you must, at least have doubt, as to the veracity of your so called Gurudev’s words and position? Srila Prabhupada did not want blind followers and this is what you are, I am sorry to say.
You refuse to look at history of not only the movement but also the history of the individual that you call your ‘gurudev’. Srila Prabhupada has spoken very lucidly on ‘if you do not learn from history you are doomed to repeat it’, but this has also been the hard earned collective experience of mankind. Yet you brush off learning from the past as if it was nothing.
Tulasi DD it was and is Srila Prabhupada who you have come to surrender to. The person you have bonded to is an imposter, a putana, he does not have the blessings of Srila Prabhupada nor does he have the blessings of Srila Prabhupada’s non ambitious true followers. He has misrepresented himself as a diksa guru and he is cheating you.
It is never too late to change your ideas and opinions. Do not be too blinkered in your Krsna Consciousness or your life. You are so close to taking shelter of the suddha bhakta His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada and the only thing stopping you is your allegiance to a cheater that has no proof that he has the blessings or instructions from his alleged diksa guru.
The hallmark of a Vaisnava devotee of the Lord is that he implicitly and explicitly follows the duties that his initiating spiritual master has prescribed and that he does not add or subtract anything.
If you have read Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and teaching on Krsna consciousness then I would not be having this conversation with you. You don’t have to believe me, simply study the works of the suddha bhakta, His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada and you will see for yourself…
Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada