Kṛṣṇacandra Dāsa – Śrī Vṛndāvan Dham: I am writing in response to the below ‘comment’ to the Article “Indradyumna Swami – What Would Śrīla Prabhupāda Say?” As this is the only comment from a disciple I decided to address the ‘logical inconsistencies’ in an article rather than leaving it as a comment. The following is the unedited comment:
I offer my humble reverence to my Guru Śrīla Indradyumna Swami, all devoties and all normal People
In the past the People wos bathing in Cloths and not in Bikinis or bathing underwears.
I am shure that in the Time of Śrī Krisna Caitanya wos not posible to found a beach where many thousands naked people are lying hours and do nothing.
How should Swami preach, when he should not at all to see, woman in bikini or to speak with inappropriate dressed woman.
Can anyone say to Indradyumna Swami, you can not go to the beach, playing Mṛdaṅga and preach, cose on the beach are many “naked” People.
And if some of them begin dancing, in Kīrtana or wishing making Foto with you , you should jump into the Baltik Sea, or make a suicide.
Maybe Devoties should build a PAPA-MOBILE for Indradyumna Swami to protect from naked People, and when Devoties going in Harinām we can drive Indradymna Swami in PAPA- MOBILE or GURU-MOBILE…..cool ..that will be very funny ..;)
Kavitā d & Familie (Austria)
Dear Kavitā D, please forgive me but I am not sure if you are joking or serious with this comment?
However, I shall take it that you are serious…
It is important to note that when I wrote the above article my intention was to; not only expose the “fallacy” that an ISKCON Sannyāsa represents our Vaiṣṇava tradition of renunciation; but to also open a forum for any of Indradyumna Swami’s followers to give intelligent rationale why he should be allowed to maintain his Sannyāsa status after being exposed as being a vāntāśī in such an blatantly obvious way.
However, you offer only ‘excuses’ for his misbehaviour which is merely a ‘defence mechanism’ and most definitely not a rationale based on śāstric evidence which can exonerate or give license for amoral activity.
You give the idea of a Pope Mobile as if it was a joke but when you considered what role this man plays in your life as his disciple, and then draw parallels to his status being similar to that of the Pope himself for the Roman Catholics. The Pope of course would never degrade himself to take photos of little girls in bikinis so why do you accept that your Sannyāsa Guru would do what the Pope would not?
I suppose you have not heard that in Śrīla Prabhupāda’s time it was the 60s and 70s – the age of Sex Drugs and Rock’n’roll, it was the flower children era, the hippie era, the free sex era, there were plenty of naked women around and plenty of cameras and of course plenty of beaches.
But you never saw Śrīla Prabhupāda taking photos of little girls or women in bikinis!!!!! You never saw His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Śrīla Prabhupāda degrade himself to enact such a amoral and reprehensible behaviour as taking gratuitous photos of half naked females.
Śrīla Prabhupāda is an ambassador of the Lord sent here to teach pure devotional service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Śrī Kṛṣṇa. He was not here to parade around with Barbie Doll Damsels sporting a baseball cap and camera as he stalks the beach looking for random little girls in bikinis to photograph and publish on his “Facebook” account!
Indradyumna Swami has no business being on a beach where there are half naked women. He is a Sannyāsa for God’s sake!
Take a look at the photos on Indradyumna Swami’s Girls article and tell me in how many of those photos is one able to discern that there is anything devotional going on? If you took all of those photos that I provided in that article and posted them as an album on your own Facebook account I bet your wife would have something to say about it!
Even the most modernistic liberated feminist woman groomed in the political correctness of the Secular society will not tolerate such a perverted collection of photos.
There is no sign of a Harināma party. No sign of any devotees. Just little girls in bikinis… Think about it for a moment. These are simply gratuitous photos of half naked little girls and young women who could be anywhere on any beach… What good is there in that?
Are you out of your mind? Have you any common sense or common decency? What happened to you?
Did you come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness to be shoved into more ignorance than the so called “NORMAL” people of this world?
If you seriously cannot understand what I am saying then there is no hope for you whatsoever. You and your guru Sindradyumna Swami are headed for somewhere no normal person would voluntarily go…
If your comment is a meant as a joke then fine but if you are actually being serious, if you actually believe that the Swami is correct by any standard then you are in one hell of an illusion…
Establish first that he is following Śrīla Prabhupāda, then that he is a pure devotee, then that his taking of photos of little girls in bikinis with no reference to any spiritual activity is for preaching… Then you have something to say, something worthy of writing and something worthy of listening to…
Remember that one should not commit offences on the strength of chanting the Holy Name of the Lord. No amount of festival tours, no amount of whipping up the crowd into a frenzy of passionate sensual ecstasy, no amount of prasādam distributed will nullify his sinful activities. A pure devotee does not intentionally sin and chant simultaneously. It does not work this way. WAKE UP! JĪVA JĀGO!