Destroyer of Deception – India:
Many active devotees on this website repeatedly lamented about the valuable time, money and more important ripe age of youthfulness wasted by getting cheated by Bogus Pretender Guru and blamed themselves of their wrong choice. Instead of lamenting after effects I humbly beg all devotees to study this article composed from extracts of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings. Investment of time and austerity in studying Srila Prabhupada’s instructions can save one from such pains.
Since Srila Prabhupada’s demise in 1977, Topic of who can be a Guru continued to remain a ontroversial topic. It has been heated up further by recent falldown of Prabha Vishnu dasa and miserable condition of his disciples. While some of devotees who are advocates truthfulness without diplomacy and ‘political correctness’ were trying to expose cheating Gurus, sentiments of some of ISKCON devotees were hurt and they blamed it back on devotees who spoke truth for not hiding these falldown as the one who bring bad name to ISKCON.
To educate the devotees who are just driven by sentiments instead of Guru-Sadhu-Sastra teachings and give clear idea of Guru tattva and prevent future miseries of false Guru choices, it’s worth examining Guru tattva scientifically based on Authenitc and bonafide Guru-Sadhu-Sastra teachings of Gaudiya vaishnava samprtadaya. Moreover it is essential to educate devotees to distinguish between real Guru(Sad-Guru is the term used by Guru of Srila Prabhupada) from a imposter pretender bogus guru to at least protect the legacy of Srila Prabhupada and protect good name of ISKCON getting destroyed by Sahajiya pretenders.
Srila Prabhupada says: A devotee should have intelligence to know who is deviating. Surrender by your intelligence but don’t surrender your intelligence.” ( to Bali Mardana, 1974)
What is Guru: Guru can’t be a Conditioned Soul
Guru is expansion of Paramatma situated in heart of living entity. Lord sends Guru to a sincere devotee who is hankering to advance into devotional service as confirmed by Srila Prabhupada below:
The supreme spiritual master is Krsna, who is therefore known as caitya–guru. This refers to the Supersoul, who is sitting in everyone’s heart. He helps from within as stated in Bhagavad-gītā, and He sends the spiritual master, who helps from without. The spiritual master is the external manifestation of the caitya–guru, or the spiritual master sitting in everyone’s heart. [Śrīmad Bhāgavatam (4.8.44)]
According to the deliberate opinion of all revealed scriptures, the spiritual master is non-different from Krsna. Lord Krsna in the form of the spiritual master delivers His devotees. (CC Ādi 1.45)
Prahlada Maharaja also said,
naisam matis tavad urukramanghrim (Bhag. 7.5.32) …unless one takes the dust of the lotus feet of a pure vaisnava on one’s head, one cannot understand what the supreme personality of godhead is, and unless one knows the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one’s life remains imperfect…
So it is important to take shelter of pure devotee like Śrīla Prabhupāda rather than a fallen conditioned soul as Guru. Then we can’t make any spiritual advancement and develop Krsna prema.
Unless we are pure devotees or liberated souls, we should not make disciples. Instead, we should first become disciples ourselves by taking shelter of a bona fide spiritual master. [From Amrita Vani of Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada]
One is forbidden to accept the guru, or spiritual master, as an ordinary human being (guruñu nara-matiù)…. A spiritually advanced person who acts with authority, as the spiritual master, speaks as the Supreme Personality of Godhead dictates from within.[CC.Antya 5.71-74]
Based on these Guru-Sastra quotes it’s evident that a conditioned soul can not be Guru.
It is quite understandable. One who is under Yoga maya or Bhakti devi or Internal potency of Lord is capable of distributing mercy of Lord and deliver conditioned souls. Srila Prabhupada says that a bound person can’t free or liberate another bound person.
So Guru should be free from Anarthas and 3 modes of material energy or maya. Because one who is under spell of maya has selfish, exploitative material motives to enjoy for nature & others for his selfish pleasures and hence he is further entangled by Maya and acquires bad qualities by association of 3 modes of maya. Hence one who is under maya can’t free other person from maya and take him to Spiritual world which under Yoga maya.Srila Prabhupada confirmed in numerous places in his books that only one who is empowered by Lord can deliver conditioned souls not the one who himself is conditioned.
Unfortunately many devotees don’t have firm faith on teachings of Srila Prabhupada, otherwise they would not have had the opinion that a conditioned soul can be Guru.
Sexual falldowns of Satsvarupa das gosvami(2002), Param gati swami(2009), and recent falldown of Prabha Vishnu Das(Ex-Swami) should serve as a rude awakening to devotees who does not believe in qualifications of Guru as taught by Srila Prabhupada.
It’s alarming to call devotees to properly study Srila Prabhupada’s in order to understand the qualifications of a guru.
Unless one is liberated soul he can’t be able to in touch with super soul or paramatma and receive his orders. So a Guru must be a liberated pure devotee to be in touch with super soul.
The Lord is the Supersoul seated in everyone’s heart, and He acts as the caitya-guru, the spiritual master within. However, He gives direct instructions only to the advanced, pure devotees. In the beginning, when a devotee is serious and sincere, the Lord gives him directions from within to approach a bona fide spiritual master. When one is trained by the spiritual master according to the regulative principles of devotional service and is situated on the platform of spontaneous attachment for the Lord (rAga-bhakti), the Lord also gives instructions from within. TeSAM satata-yuktAnAM bhajatAM prIti-pUrvakam [Bg. 10.10]. This distinct advantage is obtained by a liberated soul. [Śrīmad Bhāgavatam (4.28.41)]
3 Types of Gurus: All are Non Different
Diksha Guru is initialting spiritual master who gives Diksha or initiation.
Siksha Guru is instructing spiritual master who imparts trsnscendental knowledge to disciple.
Caitya Guru is Paramatma or Super soul who gives knowledge from within as confirmed in Bhagavd Gītā (10.10)
All these 3 types of Gurus are non-different as confirmed below:
One should know the instructing spiritual master to be the Personality of Kṛṣṇa. Lord Kṛṣṇa manifests Himself as the Supersoul and as the greatest devotee of the Lord.( CC Ādi 1.47)
There is no difference between the shelter-giving Supreme Lord and the initiating and instructing spiritual masters. If one foolishly discriminates between them, he commits an offense in the discharge of devotional service. [CC.Adi.1.47 Purport]
Diksha Guru is higher than Siksha Guru: (F)ISKCON Elite Guru Hoax and Guru Groupism
It has already been established by sastra that 3 types of Gurus are non-different. So it is not true that
Diksha guru is higher than Siksha guru.
Actually a Siksha Guru can be more advanced devotee than Diskha Guru.eg. Diksha Guru Syamananda prabhu, Hrdaya Caitanya Govsmi sent him for training to 6 Gosvamis of Vrndavana for they are most advanced devotees.
Eg.Narottama Das Thakura, Srinivas Acarya and Syamananda prabhu all had different Diksha diksha Gurus
But had common siksha gurus. They all lived together as Godbrothers. They did not have go problems
And guru groupism clashes that we see in current ISKCON. That is because their object of love is same:
Lord Caitanya. On platform of Bhakti or Love of Godhead there can’t be any clashes. There can be clashes only on material platform of Maya.
As per sastra there can be only one Diksha Guru and many Siksha Gurus. So to control and retain monopoly over disciples Elite Gurus of post-1977 ISKCON devised a smart strategy using this principle.
If I am a Diksha guru and claim that Diksha guru is superior to Siksha Guru, it does not matter how many Siksha Gurus you have, ultimately I reign superior over them as Diksha Guru.
So, devotees need to stop accepting blindly what they have been told blindly by their selfish managerial authorities. Rather devotees should educate themselves by actual spiritual authority: Srila Prabhupada and Previous Acaryas of Parampara.
Smart Strategy: Keep Disciples in darkness and Dumbdown
If a devotee study Srila Prabhupada’s books and gets educated then devotee starts questioning their deviations and discrepancies from sastra as revealed in previous section.So it’s a very big problem and threat to elite global guru like Radhnaath swami who manages disciples around the globe.
For an Elite new age “Jet-Set” Global guru of FISCKON it is very difficult to control and keep loyalty of all worldwide community of disciples. So these elitist gurus being educated in Mundane managerial degrees of western education are naturally experts at smart managerial strategies to intimidate and mesmerize masses.
It is far easy to control and cheat masses of a corrupted society. This is the basic principles.
More a disciple is kept in darkness, easier to control the disciple and retain loyalty by imposing
Self manufactured and tailor made new age managerial mundane concoctive teachings.
If some how disciple tries to explore srila Prabhupada’s books these leaders discourage them in all the ways claiming: “You should read my books first” , “you can’t directly understand” blah..blah..blah.
Many devotees testified to this in comments. One devotee revealed that his siksha guru used to criticize him for reading Srila Prabhupada’s books more and called him as book worm and book worm can’t make a person great devotee.
More proof is in Radhanath swami’s zone devotees are forced to read local leaders books like Radhe Syam Das (Pune, India).
Siksha is more important than Diksha: Initiation is just a Formality
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura de-emphasized the traditional diksa guru parampara, which had been abused in many circumstances in the past. Instead, he stressed the Bhägavata or siksa-guru parampara. The Bhägavata succession is taken from the Srimad Bhagavatam, wherein Krsna enlightened Lord Brahma, who then spoke absolute truth to Narada Muni, who passed it on to Srila Vyasadeva. His son, Sukadeva Goswami, underwent no diksa but received the essence of Bhagavatam from Vyasa, who recited it, in seven days, to Pariksit Maharaja, Suta Goswami and others present during the recitation. All were fully enlightened but none were direct diksa disciples of Srila Sukadeva.
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta traced the Bhagavata guru parampara from Krsna to Madhvacarya, who while initiated by Acyuta Preksa of the Shankara sampradaya, is said to have received siksa of Vyasa. The Gaudiya Vaisnava parampara is therefore traced from Madhva’s siksa guru, Srila Vyasa, rather than from Madhva’s established diksa guru. So we can see that our lineage isn’t dependent upon a diksa line — in fact, it runs quiet contrary to that concept.
Following instructions of spiritual master and pleasing him is more important than taking diksha from Him.
We have seen so many disciples of Srila Prabhupada and His Guru who took even sanyasa Diksha (3rd initiation) fell down. This is because they did not follow Siksha of Guru.
Though George Harrison did not take Diksha from Srila Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada himself confirmed that he is better than many of His Sanyasa disciples.
Srila Prabhupada confirms this here:
“Well initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge… knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing.” [Srila Prabhupada Press Interview, 10-16-76, Chandigarh]
“Thakura Bhaktivinoda was not official Spiritual Master of Gaura Kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja. Gaura Kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja was already renounced order, Paramahamsa, but Thakura Bhaktivinoda, while He was even playing the part of a householder, was treated by Gaura Kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja as Preceptor, on account of His highly elevated spiritual understanding, and thus He was always treating Him as His Spiritual Master. The Spiritual Master is divided into two parts; namely, siksa guru and diksa guru. So officially Bhaktivinoda Thakura was like siksa guru of Gaura Kisora das Babaji Maharaja.” [Srila Prabhupada Letter to Dayananda, 05-01-1969]
So our parampara is a Siksha parampara not Diksha parampara.
Following are more proofs from sastra:
1. Namacarya Srila hari Dasa Thakura himself was not initiated.
2. In Bhagavad Gita (4.34) Lord refers to approach guru and enquire that was about Siksha Guru not about Diksha Guru.It’s about “pari Prasnena” means enquiry not about Diksha.
3. If Diksha has power why so many initiated disciples including Sanyasis of great Acaryas like Srila Prabhupada & His Guru have fallen. This result is for violating their Siksha.
4. Bhakti Vinoda Thakura was never initiated by Jagannath Das Babaji Mhrj.Rather he rejected his Diksha Guru Bipin Bihari Thakura for going against Siksha of Sampradaya by calling Srila Ragunatha Dasa Gosvami as “A Sudra”.
5. Prahlada Maharaj was instructed by Narada Muni in womb of mother by Siksha not by Diksha.
6. Neither Sukadeva gosvami was not initiated by Vyasadeva nor Sukadeva Gosvami initiated Parikshit mahatraj. But still just by Siksha of Bhagavata katha, process of Sravana and Kirtana both achieved perfection.
Result of Chanting Holy Name does not depend on Diksha
Namacarya Srila hariDasa Thakura himself was not initiated. But he achived perfection by just chanting holy name. [CC.Antya 3.124].Rather he initiated Mayadevi into chanting of Holyname.[CC Antya 3.259]
According to external vision, Srila Haridäsa Thäkura belonged to a Muhammadan family. Nevertheless, because he engaged himself in performing the yajna of chanting the Hare Krsna mahä-mantra, he became a regularly initiated brahmana. As confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam (3.33.6) [CC Antya (3.124) ]
In teachings of Lord Caitanya Srila Prabhupada confirms that, even without recitation of käma-gäyatri which is given at Brahmana Diksha, the chanting of Hare Krsna is sufficient to elevate one to the highest spiritual platform.
The chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra is so powerful that it does not depend on official initiation…
The offenseless chanting of the holy name does not depend on the initiation process. Although initiation may depend on puraścaryā or puraścaraṇa, the actual chanting of the holy name does not depend on puraścaryā-vidhi, or the regulative principles. If one chants the holy name once without committing an offense, he attains all success…. Simply by chanting the holy name, one is immediately delivered. [CC Madhya (15.108) ]
Bogus Guru’s Safest Strategy : Corrupt Original books of Srila Prabhupada to match our policies
If somehow devotees study Srila Prabhupada’s books it is still a threat. So safest strategy is to corrupt and water down Srila Prabhupada’s teachings to conform to the cheating norms and materialistic policies of Bogus Gurus. So they cleverly formed BBTI different from BBT in order to get away with copyright laws and pervert Srila Prabhupada’s books.
An evident example is removing word “eternal” from Bhagavd Gita (2.30), the word Srila Prabhupada emphasized so much to make it compatible with their previous Jewish/Christian beliefs.
This cheating strategies were exposed in previous articles:
Fraud of Self-Appointed 11 Bogus Gurus after Srila Prabhupada: 90% falldown rate
Out of 11 Successor self appointed bogus guru of ISKCON after Srila Prabhupada, 9 gurus either sexually felldown or eloped with girl friend. Some of their romantic pictures can be seen here:
Some of blind dumbed down followers who never invest effort to study facts of history claim that these are photos manufactured with photoshop software. If that is so then why GBC removed those gurus by official GBC resolutions?
By July 9 1977 Document by Srila Prabhupada, it is confirmed that Srila Prabhupada appointed 11 representatives to officiate in the initiation procedure. After demise of Srila Prabhupada these 11 men who were also the power mongering GBC conspired together to divide ISKCON by zones and took each a Zone.
Bogus guru supporters often quote May 28 1977 appointment tape, but that tape is proven to be edited and over-dubbed and fraudulent. It also has been superseded by the final Initiation Document of July 9th.
They have driven out 90% of original members of SIKCON and disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda within 2-3 years after Srila Prabhupada’s demise. This can be seen in Bhakti Vedanta vedabase 2003.1 and also confirmed by Tamal Krsna Gosvami in his article:
Guru cheating can’t be effective (April 22.1977).
Srila Prabhupada: People complained against [a GBC for trying to appear as a guru]. …You become guru, but you must be QUALIFIED FIRST of all. THEN you become. …What is the use of producing some RASCAL GURU?
Tamala Krishna: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it’s clear fact that we are ALL CONDITIONED SOULS, so we CANNOT BE gurus. MAYBE someday it may be possible….
Srila Prabhupada: Hm. [agrees]
Tamala Krishna: …but not now.
Srila Prabhupada: Yes. I shall produce some gurus. I shall say who is guru, ‘No you become acharya. You become authorized.’ I retire completely. But the training must be COMPLETE.
Tamala Krishna: The process of purification must be there. …No rubber stamp.
Srila Prabhupada: You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gaudiya Matha. Everyone wanted to be guru. A small temple and “guru.” What kind of guru?
Srila Prabhupada: We haven’t got to manufacture. To manufacture ideas is troublesome. Why should we take the trouble? And as soon as you want to manufacture something to my…., that is DANGEROUS. …That you are singing every day, “what our guru has said, that is our life and soul.” …As soon as this POISON will come -suppress guru and I become Brahman- everything FINISHED. Spiritual life is finished. Gaudiya Matha finished, …VIOLATED the orders of Guru Maharaja.
Smart Strategy: Living Guru Concoctions to minimize Srila Prabhupada’s significance
If everyone starts following Srila Prabhupada and accepts him as authority it’s a great difficulty and inconvenience to a materially motivated elite Guru who wants all credit for himself. It is very difficult for a materialistic person to get cope up with exemplary high standards of Srila Prabhupada and it will not be possible to fulfill their material desires if everyone follows Srila Prabhupada.
So multi-millionaire businessman Gurus like Bhakti Caru swami manufactured tailor made philosophy to suit their material ambition to get money & followers.
These materialistic gurus emotionally threaten and intimidate ordinary devotees by claiming that,
Srila Prabhupada is gone, you can’t have him as Guru, you can’t communicate with him. following references from
Srila Prabhupada himself testifies against their concoctions:
1. “The potency of transcendental sound is never minimized because the vibrator is apparently absent.” [Srimad-Bhagavatam, 2.9.8, purport]
2. “You should have a fire sacrifice and the second initiates should hear through the right ear the mantra on my recorded tape.” [Srila Prabhupada Letter, November 13th, 1975]
3. “So there was no difficulty in communicating with Manu or Manu’s son Iksvaku. The communication was there, or the radio system was so nice that communication could be transferred from one planet to another. [Bhagavad Gita Lecture 1968]
4. “You have asked if it is true that the spiritual master remains in the universe until all his disciples are transferred to the spiritual sky. The answer is yes, this is the rule”. [Srila Prabhupada letter to Jayapataka 11-7-1969]
Tamala Krsna: Can a Christian in this age, without a spiritual master, but by reading the Bible and following Jesus’s words, reach the…
Srila Prabhupada: When you read Bible, you follow spiritual master. How can you say without? As soon as you read Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ, that means you are following spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being without spiritual master?
Madhudvisa: I was referring to a living spiritual master.
Srila Prabhupada: Spiritual master is not the question of… Spiritual master is eternal. Spiritual master is eternal. So your question is without spiritual master. Without spiritual master you cannot be, at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. As you say that “by reading Bible,” when you read Bible that means you are following the spiritual master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question without spiritual master. Is that clear?
Madhudvisa: I mean like we couldn’t understand the teachings of the Bhagavad-gita without your help, without your presentation.
Srila Prabhupada: Similarly, you have to understand Bible with the help of the priest in the church.
Madhudvisa: Yes. But is he receiving a good interpretation from his disciplic succession or his bishop? Because there seems to be some kind of a discrepancy in the interpretation of the Bible. There’s many different sects of Christianity that interpret the Bible in different ways.
Srila Prabhupada: Of course, there cannot be any interpretation in the Bible. Then there is no authority of Bible. If you interpret something… Just like “Call a spade a spade.” So if you call something else, that is a different thing. He’s not spiritual master. Just like this is watch. Everybody has called it watch, and if I call it spectacle, then what is the value of my being spiritual master? I’m misleading. It is watch, that I must say. So when there is misinterpretation, he’s not a bonafide spiritual master.”
Ref. VedaBase => Lecture — Seattle, October 2, 1968
Srila Prabhupada is Eternally Present and Accessible to us
If we have any faith and respect towards Srila Prabhupada then we should believe at least what Srila Prabhupada says. Srila Prabhupada confirmed that he is accessible through his books and his teachings and he never die.
Srila Bhakti Vinoda Thalkura and Srila Kaviraja Gosvami say: In order to qualify any devotional activity as Bhakti we should have Sraddha, firm faith on Guru-Sastra’s injunctions.
Even Lord krsna declares that one who has no faith have to wander in material universe in cycle of repeated birth and death. If we want any tangible spiritual progress we have to really believe words of Srila Prabhupada inside our heart, not just externally glorifying His Divine Grace.
Those who are not faithful in this devotional service cannot attain Me, O conqueror of enemies. Therefore they return to the path of birth and death in this material world.[Bhagavad Gita (9.3)]
Following are confirmations by His divine grace about accessing Him after His disappearance:
Srila Prabhupada about Accessing him after His disappearance
Indian Lady: … is that spiritual master still guiding after death?
Srila Prabhupada: Yes, yes. Just like Krsna is guiding us, similarly spiritual master will guide us. (General lectures, 23-9-1969)
Devotee: Srila Prabhupada when you’re not present with us , how is it possible to receive instructions? For example in questions that may arise…
SRILA PRABHUPADA: Well the questions are answ… answers are there in my books.
(Morning Walk, Los Angeles, 13-5-1973)
So utilise whatever time you find to make a thorough study of my books. Then all your questions will be answered. (Letter to Upendra, 7/1/76)
Every one of you must regularly read our books at least twice, in the morning and evening, and automatically all questions will be answered. ( Letter to Randhira, 24/01/70)
If I depart there is no cause for lamentation. I will always be with you through my books and orders. I will always remain with you in that way. (BTG 13:1-2, December 1977)
74-11-22 Letter: Bahurupa
In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is EXPLAINED FULLY so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily THE KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL DEVELOP.
Note: This clearly indicates that Srila Prabhupada’s books are understood through their own potency, and that there is therefore no need for a physically present guru to understand the books. Our Srimad Bhagavatam is unique because the verses of the Bhagavatam are directly complemented with the purports of Srila Prabhupada, who is the bonafide maha-bhagavata ; therefore, the book Bhagavata and the person Bhagavata are combined in Srila Prabhupada’s Srimad Bhagavatam. Therefore, there is no need for a third party, “the so called current Iskcon links” to (mis)interpret what Srila Prabhupada “really means to say”. sic
17 may 1977 ar Vrndavan Conversations
Prabhupada: So I cannot speak. I am feeling very weak. I was to go to other places like Chandigarh program, but I cancelled the program because the condition of my health is very deteriorating. So I preferred to come to Vrndavana. If death takes place, let it take here. So there is nothing to be said new. Whatever I have to speak, I have spoken in my books. Now you try to understand it and continue your endeavor. Whether I am present or not present, it doesn’t matter.
1973-11-25. Letter: Cidananda
I should be returning to Los Angeles the last week of November and I should be more than happy to see you there. Please always try to remember me by my teachings and we shall always be together. Just like I have written in the first publications of Srimad-Bhagavatam, “THE SPIRITUAL MASTER LIVES FOREVER BY HIS DIVINE INSTRUCTION AND THE DISCIPLE LIVES WITH HIM.”, because I have always served my Guru Maharaja and followed His teachings I am now even never separated from Him. Sometimes Maya may come and try to interfere but we must not falter, we must always follow the chalked out path layed down by the great acharya’s and in the end you will see.
17 May 1977 vrndavan Conversations
Prabhupada: So there is nothing to be said new. Whatever I have to speak, I have spoken in my books. Now you try to understand it and continue your endeavor. Whether I am present or not present, it doesn’t matter.
“I shall remain your personal guidance, physically present or not physically, as I am getting personal guidance from my guru maharaja” (Srila Prabhupada to Tamal Krishna, 14 July 1977)
16 July 1977 sanfrancisco Conversations
Reporter (2): What will happen to the movement in the United States when you die?
Prabhupada: I WILL NEVER DIE.
Devotees: Jaya! Hari bol! (laughter)
Prabhupada: I SHALL LIVE From MY BOOKS, AND YOU WILL UTILIZE.
Reporter (2): Are you training a successor?
Prabhupada: Yes, my Guru Maharaja is there. Where is my photo of Guru Maharaja? I think… Here is.
Time Gaps in Parampara does not break Sampradaya
Regarding parampara system: there is nothing to wonder for big gaps. Just like we belong to the Brahma Sampradaya, so we accept it from Krishna to Brahma, Brahma to Narada, Narada to Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva to Madhva, and between Vyasadeva and Madhva there is a big gap. But it is sometimes said that Vyasadeva is still living, and Madhva was fortunate enough to meet him directly. In a similar way, we find in the Bhagavad-gita that the Gita was taught to the sungod, some millions of years ago, but Krishna has mentioned only three names in this parampara system–namely, Vivasvan, Manu, and Iksvaku;and so these gaps do not hamper from understanding the parampara system. We have to pick up the prominent acaryas, and follow from him… There are many branches also from the parampara system, and it is not possible to record all the branches and sub-branches in the disciplic succession. We have to pick up from the authority of the acharya in whatever sampradaya we belong to. [68-04-12. Day Letter: Dayananda]
Also in the Gaudiya parampara coming from Lord Chaitanya, Srila Prabhupada always presents:
Narottama Dasa Thakura -> Visvanatha Cakravati -> Jagganatha Dasa Babaji
as the record of the parampara, yet there would appear to be hundreds of years separating them. Srila Prabhupada teaches us that this is the parampara, without any additional clarification regarding ‘siksa/diksa’, ‘gaps’ or the need for ‘living diksa’. Rather he calls it a ‘clear line of disciplic succession’ (Lecture 11 June 1969).
Why would Srila Prabhupada do this if he wanted to emphasize the need for ‘living diksa’?
Guru Can’t be appointed by Mundane Committee and votes: Violation of Srila Prabhupada’s orders
As established above Krsna as supersoul arranged a Guru and Guru has to be a liberated soul and pure devotee free from all anarthas. Say, If I appoint or nominate a person as guru will he become pure devotee overnight just because I appointed him?
Many homosexual/Pedophile Gurus like Bhavananda, Satadhanya, Nitai Chand swami who sexually molested Hundreds of boys in Mayapur Guru kula were nominated as Gurus by corrupted body administrative bureaucracy body of GBC. Later on they felldown and removed. This has ruined both material and spiritual lives of their disciples.
To wake up and know facts all devotees should study hidden history of ISKCON after 1977 at: www.harekrsna.org
Following are just a few examples for utter violation of Srila Prabhupada’s orders:
1) Kadamba Kanana Swami became guru when his guru Jayadvaita swami is alive. This is against principle of disciplic succession emphasized by Srila Prabhupada many times: Eg. Dec.2 1975 Letter to Pushta Kṛṣṇa
2) “Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaisnava ācārya”(CC.madhya 1.220 Ppt) But GBC makes homosexual/Pedophile gurus like Paramgati swami, Bhavananda by voting (Param gati swami fell down & suspended by GBC in 2009)
3) Jayadvaita swami removed word eternal from BG(2.30) though Prabhupāda emphasized specialty of that word 6 times in 1973 Aug 31 London Lecture.
This is clearly Unauthorized as Prabhupada already declared its importance.
Srila Prabhupada is Center & Guru of ISKCON
Srila Prabhupada: Don’t be allured by cheap disciples. Go on steadfastly to render service first. If you immediately become guru, then the service activities will be stopped; and as there are so many cheap gurus and cheap disciples, without any substantial knowledge, and manufacturing new sampradayas, and with service activities stopped, and all spiritual progress choked up. (SPL (VI 1987) 68.8.17)
Srila Prabhupada: “This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This is what I want.” (to Madhudvisa 4 Aug, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada: “I am the Spiritual Master of this institution, and ALL the members of the Society, they’re supposed to be MY disciples. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, and they are INITIATED BY ME spiritually” – (Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview, 12 March 1968, San Francisco)
Srila Prabhupada: “I wish that each and every branch shall keep their separate identity and cooperate keeping the acharya in the center. On this principle we can open any number of branches all over the world. The Rama Krishna mission works on this principle and thus as an organization they have done wonderfully.” (letter 11th Feb. 1967)
Srila Prabhupada: He [Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaja] never recommended anyone to be acharya of the Gaudiya Math…. If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acharya, he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acharya. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp. (Srila Prabhupada, letter to Rupanuga das, April 28, 1974)
Whom should we follow? Most Prominent Acarya: Srila Prabhupada
Srila Prabhupada says that we should follow the orders of most prominent acaryas of Parampara.
As Srila Prabhupada’s teachings are non-different from his predecessor acaryas, if we follow Srila Prabhupada’s teachings we get mercy of previous acarays.
We have to pick up the prominent acaryas, and follow from him… There are many branches also from the parampara system, and it is not possible to record all the branches and sub-branches in the disciplic succession. We have to pick up from the authority of the acharya in whatever sampradaya we belong to. [1968-04-12 Letter: Dayananda]
Why Srila Prabhupada is great : The Transparent via medium
Srila Prabhupada never speculated and wrote his own message in books.Rather he consulted
Commentaries of All previous acaryas like Srila Jiva gosvami, Srila cakravarti thakura, Srila bhakti Vinoda thakura while writing Srimad Bhagavatam commentaries.So if we follow Srila Prabhupafda’s teachings we are actually following all previous acarays of our sampradaya.
Where as if we follow modified bhagavad Gita or Rubber stamped ISKCOn gurus we are following speculations of Jayadvaita swami and others who edited out and perverted original message of
Srila Prabhupada said that,
The guru is one, because he does not speak differently from his predecessors in disciplic succession.
Srila Prabhupada never perverted or edited out the original message transmitted by transparent via medium of previous acaryas.
It’s up to us whether to follow teachings of all acaryas of paramapara which were concentrated in Srila Prabhupafda’s original pre-1977 un-edited books (available for free online at http://www.causelessmercy.com/) or bogus speculation of gurus change original message of Lord Caitanya to suit their Jewish or Christian faiths.
As stated by Gurudeva of Srila Prabhupada, More important than becoming a guru is becoming a good disciple. Srila Prabhupada never hankered to become a Big Guru, rather he rejected to even take sannyas and just chanting 64 rounds per day in Radha Damodara temple in vrndavana.
It is by order of His Guru that he become Guru and delivered fallen souls throughout the world, it is this kind of full selfless surrender to previous acaryas is symptom of a pure devotee.
Destroying teachings of previous acaryas or enviousness towards previous acaras is symptom of conditioned souls.
One should know the ācārya as Myself and never disrespect him in any way. One should not envy him, thinking him an ordinary man, for he is the representative of all the demigods [Bhagavatam (11.17.27)]
1. A) All spiritual perfection is achieved only by chanting of Holy Name: hare krsna maha mantra.
There is no other way as confirmed by sastras.
B) Chanting of Holy name does not depend on Initiation.
2. Siksha is more important than Diksha.Siksha Guru & Diksha guru are non-different.
3. Srila Prabhupada confirmed that His teachings will last for 10 thousand years, and he is the Guru of ISKCON even in future. Srila Prabhupada is always accessible even after his disappearance.
4. Guru can’t be appointed by voting or by a mundane Bureaucratic committee. So All ISKCON GBC appointed Gurus are unauthorized bogus Gurus.
5. A) Materialistic gurus of FISKCON don’t want their disciples to know truth by getting enlightened by deep study of Srila prabhupada’s books for it threatens their very existence. So they encourage secular education.
B) That’s why they even make unauthorized changes to the books of Śrīla Prabhupāda.
6. 9 out of 11 Self appointed Gurus after Srila Prabhupada fell down by sexual scandals. It’s a great risk to spiritual life to accept a Bogus Unauthorized Guru, especially in a mundane corporate organization where falldown rate is so high and scandals are covered up and hidden. Moreover it’s a waste of valuable time, energy and money.