Rādhā Govinda Swami [ACBSP] – USA: In reply to Parvati prabhu’s post on Sampradaya Sun, I give this reply. (Please note that this reply is only with relation to what was posted on SS by Parvati prabhu lives in Vrndavan, and is in charge of seeing to the maintenance of Srila Prabhupada’s samadhi at Krsna Balaram Mandir, and is not to be taken as an attack on Parvati prabhu, but simply a reply in relation to what she’s written.)


Dear Parvati prabhu,

Hare Krsna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. PAMFO I hope your sadhana and bhajan are going well.

My understanding is that you’re writing in relation to the seasoned and wonderful devotees “on top,” who are in a position where they can get ALL the association they want, can attend ALL the kirtans they want, can attend (and can give) ALL the classes they want, yet you’ve written NOTHING in regards to the seasoned and wonderful devotees who got BOOTED OUT of ISKCON by the very “in-charges” you are writing about; SO MANY of the booted out seasoned and wonderful devotees, (who would PREFER to be serving IN Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON temples – if things were more right – and WOULD be attending the programs Srila Prabhupada provided for the temple devotees and WANTED them to attend. (As a matter of fact, Srila Prabhupada wanted and EXPECTED the GBC and TPs to ATTEND Mangal Aroti, CHANT their japa WITH the devotees (so devotees would KNOW their leaders were chanting their rounds), ATTEND Srila Prabhupada’s Guru Puja, and ATTEND the Srimad Bhagavatam class. The leadership was to  SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THE DEVOTEES BY ATTENDING THESE, AND to MAKE SURE that the devotees under their jurisdiction were doing so. (BG 3.21 yad yad acarati srestas…)

How many seasoned and wonderful devotees have been FORCED, even PUSHED OUT of ISKCON by the leadership – MANY of these leaders who as you rightfully related, who do NOT attend the programs Srila Prabhupada provided and WANTED the devotees to attend – and are now FORCED to live and work in the non-devotee society; some working more than one job in a day, and NOT able to have the spiritual “luxury” of being able to attend Mangal Aroti every morning with OTHER devotees, chant their japa in a/the temple room with OTHER devotees, attend Srila Prabhupada’s Guru Puja with OTHER devotees, and attend Srimad Bhagavatam class with OTHER devotees.

The reason that these seasoned and wonderful devotees who DO WANT to attend such programs and GET good association, are NOT able to, is DIRECTLY BECAUSE of the ISKCON leadership. So maybe this point needs to also be addressed. Funny how the seasoned and wonderful devotee leadership doesN’T attend, yet those whose desire it IS TO ATTEND got PUSHED OUT and STOPPED from doing so.

The ISKCON (deviated) leaders have caused their OWN mess(es) in the regard you write about – that it is THEIR CHOICE to NOT attend Mangal Aroti, the kirtans, get good association, etc., – but WORSE, is the DAMAGE  and HARM they’ve caused to Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON society and to the various pre and post Nov 14, 1977 devotees who they FORCED OUT of ISKCON.

These “in-charges” who have CHOSEN to do the following you described, “If you keep yourself ISOLATED and insulated, stay in your separate ashrams without joining the rank and file temple devotees in the daily programs over there, are basically surrounded mainly by those who worship your feet, and/or if you do not often evaluate and estimate the level of your material and spiritual position (such as sadhana and sadhu sanga), and discuss this regularly with those of at least equal association” have made that THEIR OWN CHOICE but in PUSHING OUT other seasoned and wonderful devotees, they left them with NO choice. There are some very serious devotees “outside ISKCON” (their being “outside”) because they got PUSHED OUT by these very same people you’re writing to, the ISKCON leadership, (those) who are MAKING THE CHOICE TO NOT attend, etc. SO MANY devotees who got PUSHED OUT, if they were still in the temples WOULD (BY CHOICE) be doing as you write, but have been DENIED such opportunity by the very people you are writing to.

Maybe this needs to be considered as well?