Enver Dāsa – Ireland: As a follow up to Mahasrnga’s prabhu’s article, I humbly request your permission dear readers to share some thoughts. There is no question of fake guru “falling down” because they were never up to begin with. They are just being revealed to us for what they truly were all along- fallen envious scorpions.

Just like the real scorpion does, Paramgati das had “stung” that unsuspecting man with his sexual  advances, instead of helping him, thereby only revealing his true scorpion nature.

Kirtanananda , Bhavananda, Satsvarupa , Prthu , Rohini suta and long list of others ( listed on this website) have done exactly the same to those who had served them and carried them on their backs thru life. All of them enjoyed the best of material comforts and our unconditional trust until the moment when they couldn’t subdue their true scorpion natures anymore. We only have that snake and scorpion pit (GBC) to thank for allowing them to return into our society again, despite having drowned our countless brothers and sisters, along with their children.

They may try to hide their true nature, but the scorpion is always a scorpion, no matter what they promise you when they ask for a ride on your back (along with your soul). One by one they are being revealed and most of those who choose to persistently follow them, despite of all the proof of their criminal scorpion nature and activities available by now, are nothing more than a bunch of stupid naive dogs. If you think that I am being too harsh, read on.

Srimad Bhagavatam 4.14.31

hanyatam hanyatam esha

papah prakriti-darunah

jivan jagad asav asu

kurute bhasmasad dhruvam


hanyatam — kill him; hanyatam — kill him; eshah — this king; papah — representative of sin; prakriti — by nature; darunah — most dreadful; jivan — while living; jagat — the whole world; asau — he; asu — very soon; kurute — will make; bhasmasat — into ashes; dhruvam — certainly.


All the great saintly sages immediately cried: Kill him! Kill him! He is the most dreadful, sinful person. If he lives, he will certainly turn the whole world into ashes in no time.


Saintly persons are generally very kind to all kinds of living entities, but they are not unhappy when a serpent or a scorpion is killed. It is not good for saintly persons to kill, but they are encouraged to kill demons, who are exactly like serpents and scorpions. Therefore all the saintly sages decided to kill King Vena, who was so dreadful and dangerous to all human society. We can appreciate the extent to which the saintly sages actually controlled the king. If the king or government becomes demonic, it is the duty of a saintly person to upset the government and replace it with deserving persons who follow the orders and instructions of saintly persons are of the same nature as them.

Their obstinate followers are the baby scorpions hoping to become big scorpion fake guru some day and hoping to be able to sting other naive dogs who are not willing to learn from the history.

Just like in that story about the scorpion and the dog where the scorpion asks the dog to help him get across the river on his back. Well, these guys (fake gurus) are scorpions and we are the stupid dogs for letting them ride on our backs for so long. We are barely able to keep our heads above the water and due to our ignorance, naivety and sentimentality we are still carrying those scorpions on our backs because of being forced to do so by the GBC.

The Scorpion and the Dog
A scorpion and a dog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the dog to carry him across on its back. The
dog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion
says, “Because if I do, I will die too.
The dog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the dog. The dog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”
Replies the scorpion: “Its my nature…”

Due to their extremely envious nature these scorpion fake gurus and GBC’s are exploiting us and ultimately they will sting us all and pull us down along with them to the bottom of this material universe- hellish planets, if we let them. That is the shastric injunction.

Leaders who have fallen into ignorance and who mislead people by directing them to the path of destruction [as described in the previous verse] are, in effect, boarding a stone boat, and so too are those who blindly follow them. A stone boat would be unable to float and would sink in the water with its passengers. Similarly, those who mislead people go to hell, and their followers go with them.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.7.14)”

Prabhupada: As for your next question, can only a few pure devotees deliver others, anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can become spiritual master. But unless he is on that platform he should not attempt it. Then both of them will to go to hell, like blind men leading the blind.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, December 14th, 1972)”

That is why we need to crush those scorpions once and for all and we need to stop being stupid naive dogs and stop letting them exploit us for our life force, sex, money, time, youth etc. Let us rejoice in their pain and misery for a change. Let’s give them the WAR which is long overdue! Let us all be brave and true to our duty and our philosophy!

It’s totally bona fide to be happy when the scorpion is crushed- the only bona fide reason for an aspiring Vaishnava to be happy for death of someone. So let us pray for their death. Let them all go to the bottom of the material universe -where they belong, as soon as possible. Let them go there together with all of their obstinate disciples who are not willing to accept the simple truths and most benevolent instructions given to us by our Founder Acharya A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.

Hare Krsna!